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Jane Vickery's avatar

This should have been an un-losable election if the Coalition had the spine to speak the Truth. Climate change is a con and Net Zero is a mechanism of funding public money into private (corporate) hands. Renewable energy systems are unnecessarily destroying our wilderness and farmlands to deliver us more expensive and unreliable power. We are exporting our abundant natural resources for peanuts and then buying them back to profit overseas corporations. This has driven up the cost of living. Meanwhile the housing crisis could similarly be addressed by having the courage to stop or significantly reduce immigration. The function of the Coalition appears to be to the give the populace the illusion of choice - when in reality their policies are Labor-lite. As each apparent "side" of politics tacks left or tacks right ultimately they are heading forward in the same direction which is an Authoritarian state which will limit freedom of speech and require digital ID to participate in society (as per UN Agenda 2030) Tragically Australia is heading in the direction of Argentina. yet given that schools and academic institutions only indoctrinate the students with marxist rubbish most people have no concept of the end-point result of socialism.

Stephen Kawasaki's avatar

100% Jane, I couldn't believe the result. So just like in America the unelected beaurcrates and backroom boys care little of who's in power as long as the money continues. I thought Australian's were smart enough not to give this clown and his big top of incompetents another term. Dutton when Home affairs minister was tough and straight forward. Told it how it was. Now he's just another shade of grey. Pity really we deserve a strong leader that puts us first, not last. I'm done, Australia is done. Australia will become a 3rd world dust bowl and dumping ground for Europe and the Middle East.

Paul Johnson's avatar

Well explained George, thank you. I had wondered why it seemed that the ball had been dropped, when they had a great start back earlier this year.

Q: Will the backstabbing cowards be exposed, and, can the Liberal Party come back from this.

Cheers

Lorna Osborne's avatar

I’d like to repeat the question you’ve asked, Paul.

Karen Johns's avatar

A good article George but no one should be letting Dutton off the hook. He was the actual leader and instead of wimping out, he should have spoken out, irrespective of the consequences. He had an amazing opportunity to show Australians what he could do and he chose to bow to the party left, all in the hope of keeping his job. How did he even imagine he was going to win his seat this time ???

Conservatives wanted an outspoken, active, conservative PM and he showed us he couldn’t do either.

He backtracked and obfuscated and came across as completely pathetic. He accepted what the party threw at him and showed us he couldn’t fight for anything.

He didn’t have a clear message or the truth concerning the rubbish of net zero. He refused to stand up and save our coal industry, and he didn’t even show the real cost and benefits of nuclear power.

He didn’t stand up for families, lower taxation, children, females or even life!

The Liberals are done in my opinion and unless something drastic happens to change their evil ways, it’ll be a miracle if they come back. They’ll never win by being more to the left than their Labor mates.

The next three years will be well deserved because God and His word was removed from the fight and it will not be pretty to either watch or experience. God help us!

Come Lord Jesus!!

SD's avatar

Whilst he is the leader there is no evidence to show he did not speak out, or the consequences of speaking out if he did. Every decision would have been put to the party room and voted on and regardless, if the vote went against him that is the way it goes. So in effect he was neutered by party politics and the one thing the LNP hate is a dissenter but they would not have been able to do anything during the campaign. However if elected, they would have turned on him if he broke ranks and do a Turncoat on him. He was in a lose/lose situation if George's analysis is on the money.

Karen Johns's avatar

At least they would have been in. I think an increase in the polls if he spoke out would have ensured his position for a while.

Karen Johns's avatar

Yes I agree. I remember Keating well. We bought our first house with another couple at 15% interest and had our second when the boom happened and house prices in Sydney skyrocketed. We had to move out of Sydney altogether to buy again and the rates after went to 17. Working to pay for it was a nightmare and we sold and rented. They were the bad old days indeed and it saddens me that we’re heading for worse. There’s no good in this lot except maybe the Greens losing their seats.

SD's avatar

Yes but look at what happened to Tony Abbot, he spoke out, pushed back against party demands, they rolled him in a heart beat. The LNP is more than willing to eat its own, as are Labor. I would like to see the Nationals split from the Liberals, at least the true conservatives of that party, then any conservative Libs from the right could go with them. I suspect that would trigger a bunch of by elections though. I believe the majority would win their seat back regardless and all of a sudden the Liberals and Labor have to contend with a completely new menace. The good thing about a spill like that, it gives the other independents a second crack at a number of seats that are Labor held and could quite easily be lost a second time round. All about the timing.

Karen Johns's avatar

I agree. I’ve always believed the QLD LNP should split and start again as well. As a conservative they won’t let you join if you’ve been in any other right leaning party. I tried after Cory Bernardi dropped the Australian Conservatives. If he kept it going, it may have had a chance by now and others may have already joined in.

SD's avatar

The true conservatives need to split from the LNP, join forces with Gerrard Rennick and other independents and build that up into a decent choice to compete. The LNP lost fifty percent of their seats. The independent and other parties except greens only got ten seats.

Australians are going to get their handouts, wait till the real pain of inflation starts to bite as it increases. Interest rates, I reckon we are heading for a similar result from when Keating took over from Hawke, interest rates hit 17%. Then we will see a housing crisis.

Aussies have three years to get it together or they will be in even more trouble.

SDJ's avatar

The Liberal party might be dead, but like nature, something better (or worse) will replace it. I am hoping there are enough concerned citizens who could step up, not career politicians, they can piss off now, they are the problem. That's how Menzies created the Liberal party , from being banished from his old party, wasn't it?

S Lew's avatar

The media was involved too.

Even if PD spoke up on topics the media would not have presented that to the voters. The media (MSM) have their agenda too. Maybe we should have a MEDIA Party. (Truth)

Earl William Lansdown's avatar

Smells of Catherine Dieves ,Amanda Stoker, Gerard Rennick, Holly Hughes, they are the ones that were a threat to these cowards, I have voted for sixty plus years and I am convinced they they have thrown elections when it suited keep up the good work, Cheers.

Howard Ross's avatar

Atrocious!!! Labor lite leftards!!! May God deal with these traitors to the nation!!!

Marianne  Agnello's avatar

Read Operation Gladio by Paul Williams and see how the globalist ,the CIA and Blackrock use puppets around the world to suit their aims.

I was not surprised by the outcome.

When you have a nation 95% jabbed what else could you expect.

There are not too many people thinking straight, as the are all dependent on the gravy train and Labor will keep feeding them dribbles

SD's avatar

There is no evidence the nation is 95% jabbed. There is no evidence that is the case. Given they have had to bin millions of doses because they rotted, their claims are spurious at best. They would have had to whack over 75k bodies a day for a year to achieve that. They never even got close to that throughput and never could, lined up in their hundreds, they waited, walked in, had their details checked it all took time that does not support the govt claims. Same with doctors surgeries, they never had the throughput.

Robyn S's avatar

I think 95% is too high - but I don't think it's too far off. Don't forget they wanted everyone to have 4 doses, or something ridiculous! No wonder so many jabs got binned.

I think a lot of people DID get jabbed. Approx. 95% of my patients got jabbed (I worked 50km out of Canberra in the country), even though I tried to inform them properly about these jabs! I've met MANY people who say they only had it because of work/job/some other lame excuse. Many regretted it. But I'm sure if the pressure was on again, most would still go out again and get jabbed again. You can't fix stupid.

I've met quite a number who also didn't have the covid jabs, but that's because I now live in the Northern Rivers region of NSW. But even I'm surprised just how many got jabbed up here.

Even at a range of schools (from state to Steiner to Catholic to Christian), my kids and I subtly (or not so subtly from my son, sometimes, ha ha!) asked around and about 1/3 of kids had the covid jabs in primary school, regardless of the type of school. I can only imagine it's higher for high school because almost all my high school patients got jabbed when I worked in the country near Canberra. Also, ALL kids are jabbed with the childhood vaccine schedule even at my younger kids' Catholic school - except for my kids. There are 3 others that we know of where their parents have stopped with the vaccines, but they still got some/plenty. So even in religious realms, parents still jab the f%^k out of their kids. It's appalling. Criminal, even.

It was just horrible how many signed up for the covid jabs, though. I do have friends in Mullumbimby who are jabbed and one of them joked to me "I think we're the only ones who are jabbed in Mullum!" So not all areas of Australia were too keen on them. But those areas are few and far between. Even in Mosman, where I grew up in Sydney, the rate was about 82% jabbed. Compare that to Castle Hill with >95% jabbed (and I have friends in Castle Hill who are also unjabbed, and they attest to the horribly high percentage of jabbings there!), and that's a fair difference, actually. But it's still way too high a level of covid jabbings.

With everything we know about these covid jabs and what they do to people (and the thought processing of people who took/take them), it's no wonder people voted for Labor and wanted the dribbles from the gravy train! But a drop from 16% to 15% to 14% for income tax, over years? It's not going to make much of a difference to most. Not when inflation gets going! And hoping to reach 82% renewables (and they count 'gas' as renewables, even though it's non-renewable!) whilst cutting coal fired power plants? Get used to more blackouts, that's what I say. I guess for those who have spare cash in this day and age and can somehow afford tens of thousands of dollars on a hybrid/off-grid solar system, sure, they'll be fine, but for the swathe of people who can't? That $4K rebate is useless to them. And whilst cutting HECS debts is a nice idea, if you can't afford to/don't have to pay it back anyway, 'coz you're basically on the povvo line, it might as well be an empty promise. The HECS debt will still be indexed. And many won't be paying anything off for years. In another 15 years, who'll notice the difference on their debt?! The only good thing is that it's not taken out of your estate when you die - yet. But I'm sure they'll change that one in time, too! In the meantime, that HECS debt works against your ability to get a loan.

No wonder people chase the money. They don't think they can live otherwise.

SD's avatar

I never believe their published numbers now, they overinflated the CFR and denied all cause mortality had gone to 35% and the media never reported it had increased till earlier this year and said it was 10% or some garbage. Yet we know its much higher still. I was talking to a staffer in a cardiology clinic recently and they were telling me how 'business is booming' I asked why and they said 'I don't know what is going on but we are so busy and its been like this for the last year or more'. 'Yes that elephant in the room has made a mark'. That got a funny look but it said it all, she got it.

Robyn S's avatar

Oh, all the data is ruined, now. That's pretty correct. Who knows what's true or not anymore. Invariably that's what they want, for the truth to mean THEIR truth. Bring on Big Brother, right?!

I still think way too many got jabbed. 95% is overkill, but at least 80% of all men, women and children put together is probably close to the mark.

And yes, in the coming years we are going to see huge changes with people's health and longevity. It's not obvious to the general population now, but put it this way - even in the little town of 3K people where I live, they have now taken out the fence and cleared more land so they can bury more dead at the cemetery. They've literally run out of room for the bodies. And that's just the dead. Not the injured/maimed/unhealthy! And there are many unhealthy ones! People limp down the street, their eyes are funny, they're out of breath walking up a small hill. It's everywhere...

SD's avatar

I agree the numbers are high, just overinflated by the media and government to support their narratives. That expansion of the cemetery fence line would make a very interesting clip to go onto the tube and socials. Highlighting how they are running out of room to bury the dead. Take into account that cremations are probably up as well but go unnoticed. I wonder what the local funeral directors would have to contribute in terms of how their business might have increased in the last four years and whether there is anything unusual about the deceased they are noticing. Yes, I am noticing an increase in the numbers of unhealthy strugglers and I am in a major city.

Robyn S's avatar

It floored me how many people made the time to get jabbed out of their schedule, even the introverts, and they toddled off down to the local jabbing hut (where minimal details were taken and no true informed consent was given) and if they were lucky, they toddled off home again with a bandaid on their arm. Trust me, people made the time to get jabbed. The staff doing these jabs wrongly thought they were God's gift to humanity. They worked hard and fast to make sure as many arms as possible got jabbed!

And jabbing 75K people a day in the whole country over the whole year is quite feasible when you consider how many jabbing places were available. And given there are about 500K staff to do the jabbings (approx. 335K nurses, 130K medical practitioners and 35K pharmacists) in Australia, it would be quite possible to have achieved a very high jabbing rate, unfortunately.

Chris's avatar

Good stuff George. The LNP needs to bust up, with the real conservatives taking charge and throwing out the Leftists and machine men. Or leave the sinking ship and join the Libertarians or One Nation.

Ignore the idiots who say the LNP was "too right wing" . Its too left wing.

MarilynK's avatar

It will be extremely hard to throw out the Leftists when the control the reins. Perhaps they don't realise that by totally undermining the Liberal party they're cutting their own political throats.

Conservatives will not forget this. Not the true ones.

MarilynK's avatar

I saw this coming a mile away. Like him or not, nobody as seasoned a politican as Dutton wouldn't be so stupid as to make so many mistakes and backflips in the middle of a campaign.

The knives were out for him from the start.

The LNP are now just another Labor in sheep's clothing.

Gregory Taylor's avatar

Dutton still had soft takes on such things as free speech protections, net zero and mass immigration though, didn't he?

Greg J's avatar

Yes he did, and that was his problem from a conservative, libertarian perspective. It was like nearly every policy position he took was wrong-headed and bound to antagonise his base:

- He supported the fake hate speech censorship laws;

- He was pushing for support of further weapons to Ukraine;

- He was in favour of massive Indian immigration - "but just a little bit less" than the ALP;

- He accepted the whole net zero bullshit, except his response was nuclear - but not coal.

Ultimately, he dithered about without any consistent conservative policy positon on a whole range of issues, and he paid the price.

John Dawes's avatar

Inside information I've had from within the party has been confirming that for months, George. And the next LNP leader will be a leftie (sorry 'moderate'). But Dutton's policies were pretty clear to any voters who were interested i.e more concerned with the big issues and the future of this country (rather than eg 'the Sport' and other trivia). You can only blame political leadership, or the lack thereof, so far. And look how poorly the 'freedom' minor parties did AGAIN and for the same reason. They didn't pull their policy punches at all and campaigned widely and pretty vigorously, (especially Rennick) in a way that neither major party bothers with. Ugly truth: most Australians aren't really interested enough to seriously enquire and make an informed choice. My wife and I attended a Rennick campaign meeting in a Qld country town of around 100,000. Attendance?: less than 100.

dehne mclaughlin's avatar

Sure looked like a self destruct policy mish mash.

SD's avatar

I would like to see Dutton in full conservative flight mode, I just don't think it will happen, he is a climate acolyte and will not use coal. Taking the soft line of a 'mix' of renewables, among a few other things, I reckon he was a bit soft on China for example. I felt he was holding back for the most part. I would like to see him team up with Sen Rennick or one of the other smaller parties for round two in three years and let the real conservative Dutton out if one is in that body.

As for Albo, I suspect Wong and Marles will roll him down the track. Every time Albo speaks its like watching a younger version of Biden with someone hand up its backside making the mouth move. We are in for a hell of a ride the next three years.

Karen Johns's avatar

Peter Dutton has lost his seat and therefore no longer in parliament. He’s out!

SD's avatar

Nothing gets by you does it.

Karen Johns's avatar

Did you not notice Gerrard being kicked out of the party with Dutton as a leader? How do you think they’ll join up? You’re talking like they’re palls. Dutton couldn’t go full conservative at any time during his leadership, so it’s unlikely that he will any time soon because he obviously doesn’t really believe in any of it.

Carolyn's avatar

Thank you, George. Your explanation is extremely informative. Peter Dutton probably was well aware of how things were conspiring against him. In that case, I wish he had gone down fighting - with fire and flame in his voice, passion and power! My best wishes to him, a good man.

I would also like to add ... the Nationals should leave the Liberals

Bryan's avatar

Dutton was hardly the most charismatic politician. Turnbull is the very definition of 'Labor Lite'. TDS seems to run far and wide.

Gregory Taylor's avatar

Nobody is less charismatic than Albo

Sandra Smith's avatar

Isn't it time to 'name and shame' the hatchet men and women in the Liberal Party shadows? Some excellent politicians such as Christiansen, Rennick, Dutton and others deserve to have the public know their true fate and why. Secrecy begets evil!

Patricia Miller's avatar

ABC Ferguson lay the blame on Jacinta Price, which is insane. If our representatives are not trying to make Australia 'great again' & do NOT want to get rid of government waste, then they are not in it for the right reasons i.e. working for the people, not their own agendas e.g. Bowen & 'green' energy