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Chris's avatar

I am in Dickson, Peter Duttons seat. Many times I have approached his office on issues where it was clear to me (ex LNP) where Dutton should be standing, but was not.

Dutton deserved to go.

Before I left the LNP I went to a state conference. What an awful affair of self congratulation completely disconnected with reality.

The LNP is past its use-by date. Dump all the wets, stop the "broad church" idea and form up behind Matt Canavan, Alex Antic and the small number of true conservative Liberals. Maybe even pull Gerard Rennick back in.

The ALP will create a wide path of destruction and whatever right wing party (hopefully) that emerges needs to mercilessly grab every opportunity, and there will be many.

The pathway is clear. If the LNP does not take it then One Nation and other parties will fill the void and do a far better job.

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SD's avatar

Rennick has done the right thing and formed his own party, the man would be a fool to rejoin and tie himself back to that waste of space party. Hanson, she let the side down by not voting against the hate crime bill, proffering the weakest excuse ever. 'We don't vote for bad legislation' Got a news flash for her, regardless of how the vote would end up, she had a duty to her constituents and the population as a Senate member to vote it down. She failed.

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rrodynmac's avatar

She was threatened by her main financier about the hate crime bs, that’s what I think.

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SD's avatar

That is a big claim, substantiate it with some evidence please.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Yeah, I shouldn’t have stated it so matter of fact, but I respect this person’s research: https://oziz4oziz.substack.com/p/defeating-the-politics-of-futility?publication_id=463082&post_id=162507736&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=22lupr&triedRedirect=true

And the only other thing I have is someone else I respect said something like, I think it was a financier threatening to pull out, at the time.

I’d also read from G.Rennick himself that he’d told Pauline to not go missing again.

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SD's avatar

Cheers for the link, interesting, not the first time she has been gotten to if true.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I didn’t know that ! But I believe you! Who in politics can we really trust these days? (Rhetorical question!)

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Chris Collins's avatar

What really annoys me is, try and contact these tax paid bastards about anything you want, and, as a voter, tax payer etc, you are entitled to contact them, and, no matter what, you will never, get a reply, maybe if your lucky, a computer generated acknowledgment at best, and then they say, 'We're in touch with the people', pig's ass they are, or, they'll say, 'we have a lot of emails etc to answer, and, are very busy. That's not good enough for me, never will be. Why have they got all those tax payer funded 'staff' hanging around doing what again?.

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David's avatar

Yep, I have written a few times with questions to a few of them as well. Absolutely nothing. I always thought it was their duty to respond.

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SD's avatar

It depends on how the letter is written and the language used. When people write to them and do not follow the guidelines, you get a robot response. Not all ministers are as diligent as others and the questions will be triaged. Anything that smacks of tin foil hat stuff, expresses violence or divisive language is immediately flagged for diversion to a letter agency. The guidelines for writing to a minister are on the parliamentary web page. If no response is forthcoming within fourteen days, Forward it again with the question as to why a response has not been received. The best way I believe is to set your question up as a 'Question on notice and send it to the opposing party member and let them run with it.

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Chris Collins's avatar

Thanks SD. I was always politically correct about what i wrote in emails, that part, i knew better. However, i will next time follow what you have said here, and see how i go. In my experience, the subject makes no difference.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Nicely said SD !

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David's avatar

Great advice & clever strategic thinking!

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rrodynmac's avatar

I wonder if there’s any chance of Alex Antic changing from Upper house to lower house, a safe Liberal seat, then him being elected leader of the opposition?

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David's avatar

Disagree with you on that one, we need good senators more than ever!

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rrodynmac's avatar

I don’t want it to happen, it’s just a strong possibility.

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David's avatar

https://substack.com/@fredpawle/note/p-162745611?r=1jesta&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

this is an optimistic article by Fred Pawle to brighten you day.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Thanks for that, we’ll just plod along-see what we know will happen. On a diff note, I’ve been frantic this morning, with father-in-law rushed to hospital, only to find out three hours later it’s fluid on the lungs, he’ll be ok, at age 84 and I don’t know how many jabs!

He’s conservative, we thought he’d reacted terribly to the news! Now I can relax a bit.

Bloody politics!

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David's avatar

I concur! 👍 , & get rid of these faceless moderate party powerbrokers & those party saboteurs like the unelected backstabbing bitter & twisted ex-pm.

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Daryl Curyer's avatar

Fully agree, the political saying "you only get the politicians you deserve" let's face it when are Australians going to demand more from our politicians there is corruption in our corporations ,arrogant regulators ,woke entitlement weak leaders .when will we demand strong common sense true Australian values ,which has all but disappeared., we got what we deserve !

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rrodynmac's avatar

This is clearly a (s)election of Albanese. I don’t believe that this many people voted for Labor.

Write it here when someone finds a Labor voter please!

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james Tayler's avatar

yes, i am thinking the same

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Karyne's avatar

I agree and it’s been a long time coming. Dutton was never a goer because people don’t warm to him. Look at Reform in the UK. They only took off when Farage joined them. Now look, they’ve gone from strength to strength. The immigration issue has of course helped him along but his personality is magnetic. Compare that to Dutton. Voters place a lot of stock in the leader, not always the policies. Who has the Liberal Party got that could command the kind of admiration and respect that Farage does.

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David's avatar

The LNP ostracised all the good politicians that stood for something, so the “pariahs” went independent. Now they’re winning. Until LNP decides what it wants to be and being “moderate” (part green, part teal & part everything else) has not worked, then it’s just a wilting flower. LNP & Dutton were “torn a new arse” by a weak & woke “Cockwomble” who is such an insult to the country that it just doesn’t get any worse than this for a defeat. So LNP’s arrogance got what it deserved & now we all have to suffer in our jocks & live with what else comes down the pipeline with this mob. if you think the last 3 years were rough, it’s only going to compound with the flood gates now open for a WEF & WHO driven digital id, CBDC, immigration & “health” agenda that Labour has already “bent the knee” for. Homelessness will increase further as it did the last 3 years with 140,000 plus people on the street, a national disgrace. Labour & LNP are the parties where the great Australian dream goes to die, the dream killers. While hope is not a method, thank goodness for the independents, though they have a tough job ahead them.

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Chris Collins's avatar

Let's not forget, that this bastard health minister is gearing up for another trip to the WHO to sign us up for more IHR's on the 25th of this month. You never read about THAT, or, get told about it from MSM, or, any other Labor drongo anywhere. Watch out, this is not going to be good for any of us, except them. More bullshit 'virus's', which thay are supposed to be testing now, but, Labor has to do what they are told by these other psycopaths from the WHO, WEF, etc, and, they will, instead of telling them to get bent.

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rrodynmac's avatar

It might be the Chief Health Officer who goes-Paul Kelly-he’s been going there for the last few years, signing everything he can, and urging people from other countries to do same. What a complete $**!

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Chris Collins's avatar

Yes, your right, and, i know that, and, you know that, but, the majority of the people, are asleep, and it doesn't seem to bother them, yet. I tried explaining to a mate of mine the other day, this very subject, and he called me an idiot. I could only say, 'wait and see in two or three years time.

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Karyne's avatar

DEAD RIGHT.

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Karyne's avatar

Thank you - I need it!

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Roberta's avatar

And we prefer Mr Liar ( Albanese) over Mr Potatohead. ?

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rrodynmac's avatar

True, a few people I know of (including me) call Dutton Mr Potato Head. (Named after the toy)

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Chris Collins's avatar

Yes, but, the toy was smarter, and, you could get rid of it if was no good, and it was cheap.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I’ve still got mine from when I was kid, it’s more than 50 years old.

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Theonie's avatar

Susan ley

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Brenden Dyson's avatar

I can’t believe people’s first and one nation don’t do better, Aussies are brainwashed to keep the duopoly in power

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Roberta's avatar

We are the laziest, stupidest, slickest voters on earth. We deserve what we get.

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A O'Brien's avatar

Brainwashed to keep the duopoly in power is correct. I live in a safe Coalition rural seat. A local man here once said "Put a hat on a post and call it Nationals and people here will vote for it" Which is highly accurate. No minor party candidates stand a chance. People appear to vote the way they have always voted even though its surely clear that the duopoly are comfortable in their power and really do nothing worthwhile for their voters anyway. The neigbouring electorate has a major rural city where for some stupid reason the people always vote Labor. Stuck in their ways even if they are paving their own road to destruction (funny I should use that cliche as roads don't seem to get maintained anymore - just one more reason to realise the people we are voting in are doing nothing for their pay)

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rrodynmac's avatar

I’m very much like yourself A O, in a safe National rural seat-nothing can move the sitting member, even if he was on fire!

Maybe we live in the same seat-I’m in S.E. Victoria.

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David's avatar

The majority of the comments on social media were anti-Albanese & one of the most disliked incompetent political leaders of our time. The result doesn’t match the sentiment, though the LNP didn’t deserve to win, something appears amiss.

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Debbie's avatar

I truly think this was planned total corruption It is so devastating

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Roberta's avatar

Agree. No-one could lose this badly against an absolutely rotten evil government unless it was planned. Does not seem possible. It should have been an unlovable election for Liveral.

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A O'Brien's avatar

I have decided maybe most of our fellow Australians either really just don't care or are actually looking forward to their coming enslavement :(

Whatever about voting for the Coalition, how could ANYONE in their right mind vote for Labor or the Greens?? I woke up this morning wondering that and decided that they must honestly think they are doing something good. When I saw that several hundred people had voted for a "Victorian Socialists" candidate, all I could think was "please pack those people on the next flight to China and let them stay there" - the Greens and Labor voters should consider going too.

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Brenden Dyson's avatar

Aussies love to be controlled, look at the lock downs and mandates

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Brad James's avatar

Well said!

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John Dawes's avatar

You're right of course George but after over fifty years of voting in this country I'm afraid I don't share your belief in the Australian people. Look what Queenslanders just did to Rennick, who had all the policies that the LNP should have had and who campaigned vigorously all over Qld. They gave him fractionally more votes than the Legalise Cannabis Party (5% vs 4.6%). Little people concerned only with little issues. And they need to be lead - they have an version for change and have to be taken by the hand and lead by a 'strong leader'.Otherwise they will revert to what they know even if it's bad - hence Vic Labor's re-election after Andrews. Different century same shite. I'm very doubtful this country has a future. The future it could have had will be lost by default. NWO here we come - move over Canada.

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Joey jinx's avatar

Gerard Rennick got my vote he is the man at least he's a bit more courageous and has more virtue than the rest of you scum

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Brenden Dyson's avatar

Me too

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Rob from Gippsland's avatar

With the influx of migrants who will be citizens and voters in three years time, who seriously thinks anyone other than labor will hold government in the rest of our lives?

We are cooked now.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Hey Rob from Gippsland, I’m also Rob from Gippsland, Robyn. S.W. Gippsland. Gippsland seems to get bigger and bigger each day!

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Rob from Gippsland's avatar

Not that far from me then, up near Drouin.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I’m down near Yarram. I don’t travel much these days. Haven’t even got on the train from Traralgon, and my car just got serviced-cost so much, just for that! But the engine’s pretty good, but the car will fall apart any day! 1996 Camry. Toyota’s are pretty good.

I only really know Drouin from the train, but you don’t see much. Housing prices have skyrocketed there, I’ll bet. Fairly close to Melbourne, if one works there.

I’m not really “from” Gippsland, I’m born and bred in Melbourne, but haven’t lived there since 2000! I hate Melbourne now! Where we live it’s pretty quiet.

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Rob from Gippsland's avatar

Drouin/Warragul has been the fastest growing regional area in Australia - although Drouin is my nearest town since I shifted here in 1978, I now find that whereas I used to bump into people I knew regularly it has become so that I am a stranger in my own town - I suppose it doesn't help that so many of the people I knew have now popped their mortal clogs.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Yeah, I’ll bet !

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Rob Van der Sanden's avatar

It is my view that Dutton was instructed to lose, and he will likely leave politics shortly and be rewarded for his lack of effort.

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David's avatar

You are taking the ‘piss’ right? Who goes into lose an election in this environment? An election didn’t get much easier than this to win considering the state of the country!

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Joey jinx's avatar

Have we forgotten that labour forced injection program bio weapon and no one's been arrested labour liberals greens nationals are all scum except about seven centers who are fighting for our souls. Do not have any courage to speak up and speak out if so the net makes you a black snake like the rest of the scum

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james Tayler's avatar

In basic terms, I don't think the LNP has a constituency. It should be for small businesses, but they did nothing for small businesses. My best clients right now, are service personnel. Other don't have the money.

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Chris Collins's avatar

I wonder how many people saw that interview with Dutton and his son, what a joke. The boy saying, 'My biggest concern is if i can buy my first home', all the while, been one of four 'family trust' trustee's, who have a wealth of $300m. Man, that must be hard on the poor bugger. What a disgraceful episode. They must think we are all idiots.

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james Tayler's avatar

i agree, when you gotta bring your son on the tv, you are done.

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Sue Seivers's avatar

Agreed

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Bradley's avatar

Yep

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