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Diane's avatar

These monsters need to be publically executed. I am not calling for violence, I am calling for justice. Mothers need to band together and form their own child minding groups with people they trust. At this stage, I would also take my children out of school and home school them in a similiar type of group, with trusted people and educators.

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Bibi's avatar

Don’t wait for a group to form… home school your kids now Diane.!

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Diane's avatar

I would've already done that, if I had children.

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Bibi's avatar

Then what do you mean by “At this stage..”? I took it that you meant you have children… at this stage.!

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Diane's avatar

Why the explanation marks? What is so surprising? 'At this stage' was written to mean 'at this stage...in the spiralling evils of the school system'. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

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Dianne Bentley's avatar

This is appalling! In all honesty, I have never like the idea of childcare centres. Children being brought up be strangers. Of course women have to work, but small family child mnding places or relatives who don't work is a better alternative.

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Hayley Badger's avatar

Women can work, they should not HAVE to. The Govt should encourage mother's to stay home if they want to, but instead they encourage them to work. After the youngest child is at school the mother could go back to work for school hours. But today I would homeschool children under the radar. Most schools are not worthy to be trusted with our child's minds an bodies.

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Dianne Bentley's avatar

I agree, but these days they think they should work. None of my grand daughters work, they are married and fortunately, don't have to

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Corinne smith's avatar

Paedophilia has always been a terrible occurrence. However, society has become so sick it is more than troubling. Little children are not meant to suffer.

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Fossil1's avatar

Disgusting and very sad of course, however, the scum that do these depraved acts would do so in any setting, so closing down the whole industry is unlikely to stop it happening.

Perhaps more extensive use of CCTV, body cam for carers, carers forced to work in pairs, the threat of mandatory life imprisonment or some other measures, could be employed to stop these paedophiles, BEFORE they hurt a child.

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Margaret Robinson's avatar

Mothers should take their children to a play group where mothers and children make friends for life and children feel safe and loved. I have made wonderful life long friends from playgroup. I didn’t go to work but we had a farm so that worked for me and my friends who were from farms. I looked after children from mothers who chose to work but sadly there were a lot of divorces with those families and one child an adult took his own life. Very sad but children need that early nurturing from their mothers.

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Thelma McInnes's avatar

George it grieves me how mothers feel they need to work, and sacrificing time they could have with their children! Why have children in the first place? It’s so very sad what is happening in todays world.

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Anne Window's avatar

How incomprehensibly wicked, and parents still send their children to childcare? Each abused baby/child is a life and family destroyed. Government run child care needs to end. Paedophiles are drawn into this environment with little deterrent if caught. How precious are children to their parents? I’ll be voting and standing next election with a Christian party who stand for Godliness and righteousness, Family First. I’ve had enough of wicked governments destroying their people. I’ll stand and make my voice heard. God bless you George and each person here fighting for our loved ones and nation.

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Suzann Vasanji's avatar

I’d agree with family run alternatives with mothers on free working days doing the childcare. Of people you know and have close knowledge of. The other is just abhorrent.

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Stephanie Brooks's avatar

In reply to the global pattern of childcare horror. It is many years ago now but when I gave birth to my children I stopped working to stay home and look after them. These first years of a child's life are priceless. Take advantage of them. Stay home with them and watch them grow up. Every day they learn something new and just being with them all day makes you so much closer. Putting your child into the care of an institution may have advantages, the dollar is a powerful drawcard, but the statistics alone show that your child might not be safe, the abuse your child may suffer from leaves lifetime scars. The child would have been threatened by the carer that she will suffer if his/her behaviour is known to others. This is one instance where the almighty dollar must take second place even if it means that you have stew for dinner every night of the week. (And think of the time you will save cooking dinner.)

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Robyn S's avatar

'Suffer the little children', right? And it's not just in childcare It's at schools, it's at home, it's at places of entertainment; it's everywhere. Paedophiles are everywhere and will ALWAYS take advantage of children, even in the most remote rural towns and definitely in the big, fat cities.

If I had two wishes, the first would be that all people would be self-responsible, followed very closely by ALL paedophiles just dropping dead, wherever they are in the world. Because they're NOT self-responsible! They think it's OK to do horrific things to innocent little children. They think that's normal. Paedophilia is a different sexual orientation/preference, and then on top of this, they can be straight or gay paedophiles (and the homosexual ones attack WAY more kids than the straight ones before they're caught - IF they're caught; the statistics are just awful).

Honestly, if I had my way, it'd be the death sentence for EVERY paedophile who has ever ONCE acted on their urges, however small that urge. With absolutely NO exceptions!

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Robyn S's avatar

As for childcare being in operation? I think there's always been a need for it in one form or another at times, even if it's a Mum looking after a few of her friends' kids now and then. And even then, bad things can - and do - happen. You can't keep kids safe all the time. You just can't. As a parent, you have to make judgement calls all the time.

But there's a huge difference to leaving your kids with a lady down the road because you need to be somewhere else for a few hours once in a blue moon, to deciding to put your kid into daycare F/T from 6 weeks of age. Obviously a parent choosing to put their kid into F/T daycare from very early on has picked their career over their kid. These parents shouldn't be having kids. Period. At least that's my opinion! I know things happen, and some parents feel they are left with no options, but IMO it's NOT an option to leave your new baby in F/T daycare. EVER. Why not just put it up for adoption and be done with it?! Poor kids. Many of them just don't get good parents, do they?

I think that SOME daycare, sometimes, is OK. When the kids get a bit older (eg 4-5), it's good to socialise. But family daycare, or Mums getting together so the kids can socialise whilst they also socialise, is probably safer. However, as George suggests, to do this, there will be major financial loss. It means one working parent, and one stay-at-home parent, or two P/T working parents. And this also assumes that there are 2 parents, not 1! You can get by with single parenting, but it's far from easy, and the kids get left alone a bit. So that's not good, either, or safe.

Hubby and I have both done the P/T working/parenting thing for years, and now he works and I stay at home. We're both professionals, but our family comes first. But we're lucky in that we can live a reasonable enough lifestyle and still get by on one income. Many people earn far less than we can/do and also make poor lifestyle choices.

I guess ultimately, people make the choices that work for them. If family really is THAT important, they'll find a way to make it work. If dumping kids in daycare 5 days a week for most of the kid's life is the choice, then I don't think the parents should've had kids. But I guess most of them don't think they're bad parents - because society has normalised dumping kids in daycare!

There's no quick solution, and many childcare workers speak English as a second or third language. And sometimes they just don't care that much. This is true. But there are good daycare places, and good workers, too. You just have to do your homework. And hope a place is available!

When we used daycare (no more than 2-3 days per week after they turned 2), it was at a really small and local childcare place (with the same 2-3 carers and maybe 5-6 kids?), or it was at a larger, but decent, childcare place - but that was only ever 1 day per week (because it was 1.5 hours' drive away - literally across the road from hubby's work - and we also had to pay full fee because we don't vaccinate our kids!). Mostly, we have raised our kids ourselves, including some home schooling in there, too. I think parents should mostly raise their own kids - from the start. It makes a huge difference.

You can't keep your kids safe 100% of the time, but you sure can try!

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SD's avatar

A Royal Commission would be the go with full coercive power and the right to jail anyone who refuses to testify. The other problem is many of these child care facilities are 'Franchises' of larger companies. Might be worthwhile looking at which companies are bankrolling the whole dog and pony show. My sporting partner works in child care and the other side of the problem is the continuing destruction of the economy forcing women into the work place. In the name of equality of course. Going to take more than what is currently happening to change the child care industry but publicly calling it out and shining a massive spotlight publicly on it would be a good starting point.

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Dave Esplin's avatar

Paedophiles tend to gravitate to jobs where they're in contact with young children. It was only a matter of time before the child care industry was beset with these tragic cases

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Carol Doherty's avatar

Yes. These ‘centres’ are allowing parents TO AVOID BEING PARENTS!

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Hayley Badger's avatar

I have said for many years now that in generations to come, they will look back on child care and shake their heads and say "what were they thinking". I've never agreed with childcare, but I thought I was alone in this. It's only in the last few weeks I've heard other voices also regarding it as detrimental to our children & society.

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Barbara Brewster's avatar

Many thanks for such a clearly consciously written expression about what’s really going on.

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