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Genazzano's avatar

Need a new Party with Gerrard Rennick or someone of the same calibre at the helm

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LD50's avatar
May 6Edited

I agree. Gerard Rennick's People First is where my support is. I have looked at the numbers achieved for a first attempt and it's very, very promising to be continued if properly planned and managed this next 3 yrs.

Structure, internal Ops., and membership is key to performance. A big basket of variables but essential to communication, branding and relationship building.

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Eric Horneman's avatar

Unite all freedom parties, well Most.

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Steven Howard's avatar

Appreciate your post, George, but the hard truth is this: the system isn’t broken—it’s a fraud, and always has been. It was never designed to serve the public, only to manage us while protecting the interests of those already in control. Whether it’s trying to reform the Liberals or start something new, both paths just keep us trapped inside a rigged game where the outcome’s already decided. The real task now isn’t fixing the system—it’s walking away from it entirely and building something outside its reach. Anything less just props up the illusion a little longer.

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Matthew Smith's avatar

Absolutely! Even a coalition of independents and minor parties completely ousting the big 2, would still need to pledge their time to dismantling the system, and I'm confident the system has been built to withstand that too. But that's the only way it could work, short of some kind of coup or revolution event. It's all an illusion.

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Cornelius Mentz's avatar

Absolutely agree with you Steven. As I have posted above, in my opinion, the name of the "new united" party is extremely important. It should not at all relate to a specific person or by anything that will scare "more liberal" voters away. It should relate to the fact that the party stands for Australia first and nothing else. I do not know how they have achieved this, but maybe we should look at what the other conservative governments (e.g. Hungary, etc) did to become so powerful?

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Steven Howard's avatar

Names don't matter, you can't fix a broken system by changing your name. The system isn’t flawed, it’s a bankrupt fraud. All governments are. Doesn’t matter what you call the party or who fronts it, you’re still stuck in a managed illusion run by middlemen posing as leaders. The only real path is out.

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Cornelius Mentz's avatar

I respectfully disagree Steven. names do matter. IN this country, for example, if you call it anything with Christianity in it (I am a Christian myself) you may not attract supporters.

I agree the only real path is out.

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Bruce's avatar

Oz Voting Public are a big disinterested behemoth- getting them to vote anything other than 10-15% Outside of their comfort zone is VERY Difficult. Many wont devote the energy to listen. High & growing nos. of Non Voters are strong indicator of dis interest. Yes we are at the other vitally Interested end of spectrum- but changing momentum is very difficult- esp if the Result is known before a Vote is cast... or Counted... two very different things in their own right....

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Trina's avatar

Absolutely bang on!!

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Bryan's avatar

Even someone with the force of Trump didn't (couldn't ?) start his own party. Hanson and Palmer seem to have a 'my way or the highway' mindset, so you will never get them to unite. PHON did themselves no favours in the censorship debates, so I'm not sure if they'll ever see the ~18% support they once had. The only way forward is the Libs/Nats need to offer something really different to ALP, and get a charismatic leader. Jacinta Price would be a good pick if she got a lower house seat.

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Suzanna Dahl's avatar

Jacinda voted YES to Digital ID. NOT A GOOD CHOICE. shes a part of the 2030 agenda

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Penny's avatar

You can pontificate all you want, our PM’s are appointed by the globalists !!! Albanese polling appallingly, then suddenly wins in a landslide!!! Dutton was a globalist pick, the difference between Dutton and Albanese was negligible

Any politician who fights against globalists agenda doesn’t get a look in NO ONE POLITICIAN IS GOING YO SAVE US ITS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO SAY NO I WILL NOT COMPLY

I am in the UK at the moment, nothing works here, it’s absolutely dreadful

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robin percy's avatar

Yes I read TCW (The Conservative Woman) a UK free online publication and Starmer is awful by all accounts but so are the Conservatives and Nigel Farrage not being prepared to defend Tommy Robinson is really suspicious.

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Penny's avatar

I am in the UK at the moment, nothing works here, the chemtrails is relentless

Have you watched UK Column it’s a viewer sponsored news show, which you can watch for free, you can pay a small amount and watch extra content, they did an excellent action on Tommy Robinson

Nigel Farage definitely not to be trusted

https://www.ukcolumn.org/

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robin percy's avatar

Thanks Penny a friend of mine strongly recommends UK column. I find TCW gives me all I need and can cope with. What is being done to Tommy Robinson is awful

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Penny's avatar

TCW is not a patch on UK Column as it’s only articles, I have gone TCW when they published obviously Zionist articles Laura PERRINS is too much of a normie for me

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John Dawes's avatar

I should clarify: can't say that Farage is controlled opposition but the evidence certainly indicates that he may be. Checkout UK Column website.

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John Dawes's avatar

Farrage is controlled opposition - a phony.

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Corinne smith's avatar

We certainly need a 'strong' leader. Those who can fire cannon balls at the treacherous Left without fear or favour. I can concur with Abbott, Rennick and Hastie being in leadership. Jacinta Price is both courageous and common-sense. But then there is MSM. People are so 'indoctrinated' by their propaganda and bias. How can we 're- educate' the average Joe Blow?

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SD's avatar

You wont have to, by the time the next three years are up, this country is going to be like the Australia we had in the eighties, interest rates at 17% under keating, inflation and debt skyrocketing and business shutting down because of imports from China and other countries after tariffs were removed.

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Gail's avatar

We must find a way and when we start working together we will come up with an effective means of doing this..

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Robyn S's avatar

We have to re-educate the masses over a few generations. It's take quite a few to dumb them down, so it'll probably take a few more generations to get 'em up to speed again!

Time can be a good friend, but in the heat of moment it often doesn't feel like it.

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Bruce's avatar

Need an antidote to the jab to do that....

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Robyn S's avatar

Yes, good point...

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Charles Kovess's avatar

I think the first step, that is not in your options, is to split the Liberals into two parties: the REAL Libs and the TEAL Libs. Then the new freedom parties can merge with the REAL Libs. I was a Liberal Branch President and more for years. The party is hopelessly divided. But true right wing parties can all merge with the right wing of the Libs THe problem is the big chunk of money sitting in the Vic Division from the sale of its HQ Building. Plus the funds in other State Divisions. Keep up your good work

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SD's avatar

Having a third large party with some clout will be the go, Australians need a real alternative, one that actually says what it means, does what it says and delivers. Two things LNP and Labor never do.

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Bruce's avatar

That makes sense....

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Judy Pamenter's avatar

We definitely need all minor parties to unite under the leadership of Gerard Rennick.

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Robyn S's avatar

He's my all-time favourite politician.

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Garry McCaskill's avatar

As a former member of Australian Conservatives I can tell you it’s pretty hard to make an impression on the two party system. You need a dynamic leader and a very generous benefactor like Gina. If you haven’t got those two essentials good luck. Alex Antic would be my first choice and seeing him so pissed off on Outsiders this morning maybe he’s available.

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SD's avatar

Now there is a good choice to team up with Rennick.

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Robyn S's avatar

Maybe he's pissed off because he got to stay with the Libs and not have to be an Independent like Rennick - but the Libs still got beat ('coz they chose to castrate themselves)!

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Rae Bewsher's avatar

Maybe God has another way? Just saying?

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Alan Gray's avatar

Isn’t the poll itself a reflection of the dilemma we face with the Labour/Liberal choice? Personally I don’t see either option as being much of a possibility. Part of the problem as far as I can see is that 90% of people don’t seem to have much of a clue about how elections work and don’t really care that much.

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Kevin Chaffey's avatar

I think the email from you today, with the text written by Fred Pawle, explained rather well why it is not possible to reform the Liberal Party, they are beyond redemption and the ,minor parties have their own problems i.e. the leaders do not have broad support from voters and don't want to give up their own little fiefdoms.

A new party would require a substantial backer e.g. Gina Rinehart and a charismatic leader, Trump style, does one exist in Oz?

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SD's avatar

Rennick and Hastie will fit the leadership bill, young, smart and good leadership, Rennick wise, well connected and experienced.

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Bruce's avatar

Both really good men

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Bruce's avatar

We would certainly need a strong level of Lib/ LNP Members' support- and there may be Resistance from the Wets?

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Robyn S's avatar

Does the financial backer have to be Australian...? Of course if the backer is not Aussie, it could prove problematic, but ultimately all these backers are just chasing the money, anyway. They have no other allegiance.

You just need the backer for the $ - and have to hope, of course, that their business dealings are not TOO shady!

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Bruce's avatar

Yes we need some Fin backers- but it must not come with Tentacles...- No such thing as a Free Lunch. Many countries' Ideologies have been taken over by these Tentacles....

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Robyn S's avatar

What about the Andrew Forrest (Twiggy)? He seems to have his $ tied up in philanthropy now, but I'm sure that could change given the right circumstances.

He's got politics in the close family, too, so he might be worth considering...?

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Bruce's avatar

AF was strongly engaged in Renewables including Green Hydrogen (Pink Elephant).... indicating alignment to Left?? Not Sure- he may have just jumped on the Golden Renewables Gravy Train?

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Gayle's avatar

I would like to see a new party form...Nigel Ferage dud it we can do.it.. Reclaim Australia PartY (RAP). Liberals have been bastardised and need to be filed away as a bad joke.

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Greg J's avatar

I voted 'unite the right' because I do not believe the Liberal Party can be salvaged. It is far too full of effete private-school boys [like Christopher Pyne] who are more interested in being part of the ABC cocktail party circuit, than making the hard decisions that need to be made to save the country from the lunatics on the Left.

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Rod Rosentreter's avatar

If Nigel Farage who has the passion and boldness, can make a play in UK, then I believe Gerard Rennick can lead a similar Freedom Force here in Australia, if given the opportunity.

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Peter's avatar

I agree with Brian but if the coalition can't be reformed, maybe a strong leader, with a vision for this country, could poach the best conservatives from the Libs/Nats and others, to form a cohesive new group, with aligned values and principles, create a movement similar to the Reform Party in England and possibly achieve similar success.... Perhaps an Australian branch...?

However, without broadly and strongly communicating the strategies to the public and educating them that the new alternative will be beneficial, the tide will be hard to turn.

And if the hard line left continue to stifle free speech and thought, penalising those who dissent, the task will be even harder.... but we must fight and be ready to turn the tables whenever future elections are held.

Where do we start?

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SD's avatar
May 5Edited

The last thing we need is a copy cat party of Farage's reform or Trump republicans. It needs to be uniquely Australian, speak to all Australians, capable of countering the messaging of the Left wing Labor and minor parties. Be able to produce at any media conference a documented policy backed by a plan that is fully costed. No party had that going into this election. One Nation are not achieving anything, Hanson is shining a seat for her pension. Malcolm is a hard worker, he would be better off aligning with Rennick. ToP is a waste of time, Palmer is in control of that party. He will never be PM, so he is trying to install a puppet PM which is no different to what is happening this week.

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Peter's avatar

As you said, the Coalition failed to present and sell a vision, or a costed plan, that could have provided a real choice. It was a debacle.

I agree that we need a uniquely Aussie party, but in three years, if as I suspect, we have experienced a worsening economy, even lower living standards, along with attacks on our personal wealth and freedoms, the public might be ready for some drastic change.

If Trumps policies produce results and the Anti Trump Derangement prevalent in our media and political landscape is disproven, a similar approach in our country might be welcomed. Argentina is a prime example of how a country can be quickly turned around with strong leadership, drastic action to reduce financial waste/corruption and a return to common sense policies that benefit the majority.

In my opinion, any conservative party hoping to reach the disaffected majority, should embrace these kinds of policies, instead of running away from them. Conservatives that align themselves with the principles of Sir Robert Menzies Liberal party can never win if they are continually trying to appease the loonie left. And as long as our educators continue to indoctrinate our children/students with socialist ideologies, the harder the task will be.

But to not fight for those principles is to surrender to the left and sentence us to living in a country barely resembling the Australia we grew up in.

The question is how?

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SD's avatar

Yep I hear you, it is really whether the majority of the Australian voters have a stomach for that type of change. Bearing in mind they have been subject to years of Socialist Left indoctrination throughout their education and adult lives. That kool aid must have tasted so good. The last question, I agree. how do we fix it. Unfortunately every level of the Australian governments supporting machine the public service is infested with those same left wing zealots that were the protestors of the seventies and eighties. They hold the leadership positions and drive everything that happens to the people via their respective agencies.

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Peter's avatar

100% agree.

The left have infiltrated everywhere and I think, for most people, it will be like the frog in a pot, slowly boiling to death, not really trying to escape until it's too late (if at all).

That has been the case with most of the Western World, led by the ideological bureaucrats from the EU, the United Nations, the WHO and of course the WEF. However, as the disastrous economic effects of "Net Zero", globalism and mass immigration have wreaked havoc, many countries seem to be waking up.

As with Argentina, it will be up to the more enlightened (if strong leadership emerges) to come to the rescue and rebuild.

Right now Australia seems happy to accept the left's lies and I think it will take things to get a lot worse before the resistance will really swell. Only then might the general public sit up and take notice.... and only if there is an organisation with a vision, offering a viable plan to fight back.

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Bruce's avatar

Agreed- all- at least MOST jabbees seem to be smitten wt the "she'll be right outlook"- THATS the Problem. They are near boiling as we speak. We must WAKE (not Woke) PPL up to whats really going on and Unite as a new way fwd- cos the NWO is well Organised, Funded and well down the Path. Dig Ids, CBDC s then Soc Cr s and Cashless- now imminent.

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Bruce's avatar

It was like Coalition didnt want to win (and be accordingly Branded)- cos they too HAD TO Implement the NWO PLan!

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Bruce's avatar

Trouble is Another New RW Party- will be just that. It will compete against All the others...(mb ToP will disappear)? Liberal has Brand (albeit Tarnished) recognition. But I suggest it will be an easier and quicker (time IS of the Essence) path Fwd- but there will be resistance from the remaining- some sitting- Wets.

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Peter's avatar

Hi Bruce. I agree with your comments and you're right about "branding" and starting another party from scratch. It hasn't worked for others so far, so maybe the only viable alternative is for conservatives to join the Coalition parties on mass.

Too many left wing ideologies have crept into the Liberal Party and have influenced the it to become "Labor lite", abandoning the many voters that used to be their base.

If we could flood the organisation with like minded conservatives, get rid of the so called "moderates" (lefties) and rebuild the party with the original values and guidelines that Sir Robert Menzies designed, maybe a quiet revolution could be achieved....?

If that was seen as a way to go, how do we get the numbers needed to join in? How do we get the younger people involved and actually interested? How do we influence the indoctrinated?

I feel that it requires very strong leadership, with conviction (and financial backing), to sell the vision, get people on board and develop the policies and costings to undo the damage...

If this could be achieved by the next Federal election, there might be a chance for Australia to become the prosperous, self reliant country it should be and to recover some of the attitude, culture and values that Australians used to be proud of. And maybe, if the State Liberals can possibly stop imploding and unite, perhaps some State elections could be won along the way...?

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